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Tuesday, January 16, 2018

why Rapture Doctrine is not biblical and Paul and the book of revelations

the verse where the so callded doctrine of rapture, talks about no rapture doctrine at all, he teaches about why you must not suffer because of the ones who died early.
A way to recognize false doctrines is to figure what are the actual and real intended teaching of certain chapter.


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14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive andremain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
The reason of this teaching, moreover, he says the ones alive wont prevent them (resurrect before) the ones who died before.

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 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
He says the ones who died shall rise first. Therefore all doctrine of so called rapture, gets dismissed here.
in the apocalipse you can see clearly what Paul describes in his reference, which is one of the reasons I believe Paul got Johns revelation,
which goes against the mainstream presumed dates of event.

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And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
so if you read both verses, there is no way that, what Paul is saying, happens before chapter 14:13 of the book of revelations, 
But let see what comes in the book of revelations after that: 

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14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe _Rev 14
which matches this: 
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 49So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

So the so called doctrine of rapture, is an invention and non existant on the bible.

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 (There are at least one more reference Paul makes about the book of revelations, when he tells about Jesus destroying the son of perdition with the sword of his mouth, which comes into this account.

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2 Thes 1 "7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming"








 Which clearly matches the book of revelations.


Wednesday, September 20, 2017

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well, I wanted to see if someone would say that because I was going to say something alike, technicaly the wrong idea is that life exist without soul, because life and soul is the same, spiritual life is different although is hard to tell the difference, but spirit is something that goes out of the soul, that is added like and extra motivation to say it so,
thats why the bible say humans can have the Holly Spirit, but something that most christians denomination get wrong, is that Holly spirit comes to men only in certain circunstance, much like it did in the jerusalem temple, and not always. Only in JesuChrist the Holly Spirit was all along because was his very Soul.
So like word animal comes from anima, which is soul, therefore is pretty absurd saying animas have no soul, they just are different souls, much like they have different bodies.
Modern Christians have many things wrong just because they want someone who is not even christian in most cases, teach them, so if they just read the bible a bit could undesrstand simply things like that, nonetheless, there are many more important things to know than that, that most christians understand, like even if they would agree to something absurd like that, they dont actually agree to that, because the bible teaches that animals deserve a good treatment, even if you are going to eat him.

Reveal and Rebel comes from the same word.


Reveal and Rebel comes from the same word.

The difference between the meaning of rebel and reveal is clear.  The first is going against something previously established, and the second is to show something previously hidden or unknown. But many may not know that before the modern spelling was defined, words that sound very similar like ‘reveal’ and ‘rebel’, may have sound about the same, and having the same meaning.
An example of this, could be the word, ‘revolt’ which is related to rebel, but is written using ‘v’ like ‘reveal’, instead of ‘b’.
Therefore, is easy to think both words could have a common definition.
The common meaning both words have, according to its context, would be:
“to show something, show true intentions or motivations” “show what you gonna do”

This can be clearly demonstrated by this fact: that in most phrases where the word “rebelled” is used, the adverb ‘against’ is needed in order to give a clear meaning.
E.g. ‘they rebelled against the government”;
And so, if we replace the word “rebelled” using its meaning, the phrase has its actual meaning:
“they showed their true intentions ‘against’ the government” =
“they revealed (themselves they are/ to be) ‘against’ the government”
What if we say “they rebelled to the government” or “they rebelled for the government” it lacks the clear meaning implied by the word ‘against’, because by saying ‘to the’ or ‘for’ could indicate they did in favor to the government, as would it be read in the next phrase: “they revealed (their intentions) themselves for the government.
In the latter case, it means to reveal information, not necessarily to go against.
If it was said, “they rebelled for the government” clearly would imply they did it in favor of the government, not against it.
So both words clearly share a same meaning of “showing what you(actually) are, or what it is” according to its context.
Another  example: “in that day, they rebelled”=”in that day, they revealed(themselves)=”that day they showed their true intentions”
Another way to demonstrate this, is that there are some words which only appear in one way, but if we apply the context, all would match:
E.g. , there is a word ‘rebelious’ but there isn’t a word ‘revelious’; There is a word ‘rebellion’, but there is no word ‘revellion’; there is a word ‘revelation’ but there isn’t a word ‘rebelation’;
In that context, the adjective would indicate that something is known about their intentions, which was known before.
In the other cases, it just refers to someone who shows, or discovers, something which previously wasn’t known, that is related to intentions or motivations or something in particular, or about himself.
Then by applying the previously mentioned signification, “rebellious” means someone who “just wants to follow his own intentions or who has to show to others his own way”; ‘revellious’ would mean someone who show something or intentions (which wasn’t previously known)  about others or himself.
“Rebellion” would mean “a situation in which intentions previously ignored are discovered, opposed to a previously known situation. And ‘Revellion’ would be much like ‘revelation’ but as adjective to a group or a situation related to a certain scale, about something that wasn’t known but then is shown.
So now, we going back to the starting point, could mention about the ones which have something in common (in the way they are written) :
Reveal, rebel, rebelled, revealed.
This is the example’s definition:
He wanted to rebel himself; he wanted to reveal himself=he wanted to show his own (different ways, according to the context) way, he wanted to show his true (own) intentions
In the following examples, we’ll see first how the word ‘reveal and rebel” using the previously mentioned definition, and then other phrases with different words, but the same idea, which demonstrates that the notion of “something that is revealed” can be applied to both words

Deu_1:43  So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but rebelled against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.

Deu_1:43  So I spake unto you; and ye would not hear, but “revealed your true ways” against the commandment of the LORD, and went presumptuously up into the hill.



Hos 7:14  And they have not cried unto me with their heart, when they howled upon their beds: they assemble themselves for corn and wine, and they rebel against me.

Hos 7:14  And they have not cried unto me with their heart, when they howled upon their beds: they assemble themselves for corn and wine, and they ‘revealed(their true intentions to be)’ against me.

1Sa 3:7  Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet revealed unto him.

1Sa 3:7  Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet “been uncovered/what he was goint to do or his person)  unto him.

1Co_14:30  If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.



1Co_14:30  If any thing be ‘made known the real intentions of something’ to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:1  The ‘will, intention, what he intents to do(which wasn’t previously known) of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:



Job 7:21  And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away mine iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be.

Job 7:21  And why dost thou not pardon (the way I am going)
, and take away mine iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be.
(in the previous example, in the spanish version the word, ‘rebellion’ is used)



Other phrases were the same idea is expressed by using different words:

Psa 38:9  Lord, all my desire is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee.

Psa 38:9  Lord, all ‘I am is revealed[the real way I am) to you’; and my groaning is not hid from thee.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and ‘he rebelled/revealed against the’ truth, because there is no truth in him. (appeared the way he actually was) When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



Eze 28:15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.


Eze 28:15  Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, ‘till it was revealed/you rebelled’(was shown the way he actually was) that there was iniquity in thee.


Extra Note: Jesus says the Devil was a murderer since the beggining, in Ezequiel says that one was perfect when he was created, for that matter the next has be understood:
Ezequiel 28 talks about the prince of Persia, and by allegory of comparison, also with the fallen angel and assumingly also to the antichrist and the Devil when is thrown to the Earth as mentioned in the book of Revelations. Thus, it is not absolutely one thing or the other, but sort of all of them a little, but of course is obvious to assume it refers to the Devil, who is called ancient serpent in the book of Revelations, because it is mentioned that he was in the Eden, and he was the protective Cherub.
Eze 28:13  Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;(...)
Eze 28:14  Thou art the anointed cherub that covered; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.


Therefore, when Jesus says that the Devil was murderer from the beggining, is because when the man was created, instead of protecting him, he provoked Adam so he would die. Thats why is written, “till iniquity was found in thee.” because in that moment was shown the way he actually was


The opposite example:
Mal 2:6  The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.
Mal 2:6  The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not ‘revaled/rebelled’ in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity.

1Pe 1:7  That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perished, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:


1Pe 1:7  That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be ‘revealed to be’ unto praise and honour and glory at the ‘revelation’ of Jesus Christ:


Rev 14:5  And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
Rev 14:5  And in their mouth was ‘revealed’ no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

The word ‘mistery’ is the opposite to ‘revealed’

Rev 10:7  But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


Rev 10:7  But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished[will be accomplished], as he hath declared(revealed, showed how it was) to his servants the prophets.